The Infamous Banned Mormon Cartoon

Rather, it’s a cartoon not liked by the CoJCoLDS. I’ve heard many claims that it’s an inaccurate representation of their beliefs, but I’ve never seen any specific corrections. And, from what I understand, it was written by an ex-Mormon. It could just be that the tone is not quite right? That is a complaint of a lot of religious beliefs: if said humbly yet incorrect, it’s ok, but if said mockingly and correct, it’s not ok.

One way or another, I don’t think this cartoon has caused anyone to leave the LDS church. It makes it look far more interesting than I remember it being. I read the Book of Mormon when I was in high school … what a snoozer.

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6 Comments on “The Infamous Banned Mormon Cartoon”

  1. vive42 Says:

    So lemme get this straight. You claim not to understand that people object to being mocked more than the content of what is used to mock them?

    So, like, if we were in fourth grade and you were a genius and I said “Hey geeeeniussss” and all the kids laughed at you it would be no different than if your teacher or parents called you a genius, referring to your test scores.

    I mean, don’t get me wrong. I love you hard core atheists to death and all but sometimes you’re just the eensiest bit disingenuous.


    • That wasn’t my point (but, I agree with it). I don’t really sense any sort of a mocking tone in the video, it’s narrated in a pretty monotone voice. My point is, when asking what beliefs are, it’s important to speak to the assertion and not the tone. Plus, if the beliefs seem very foreign to the listener, it would be very difficult to tell what is considered mockery and what is straight fact.

      I would think a better analogy would be (referencing atheism): “So you guys don’t believe in ANY gods?!” in a somewhat mocking tone. My answer would be (and has been), No, since it is the truth. We usually here, “So you don’t believe in ANYTHING”, which needs clarification as to what in the world they thing “anything” is.

      The Christian doctrine of the trinity would be a really good example, as well. It’s often described (by Christians, very piously) as being analogous to water:which can exist as a solid a liquid and a gas. They are sincere about this, though it is technically wrong. That belief is modalism and it has been a heresy ever since the doctrine was agreed upon (by the 2nd Ecumenical council, if I remember right).

      I did probably phrase my question poorly, though I was genuinely interested in finding out what core concepts of the video where wrong because I don’t remember seeing comments about it that say it’s making light of their beliefs. The comments that I saw say that it’s outright wrong, yet I’ve never seen any corrections to the misconceptions, which I would very much like to know.


  2. Mocking someone for being a genius discredits the person/s doing the mocking as less intelliegnt.

    Mocking people who believe in the undocumented, unsupportable, unscientific, and utter nonsense of a 19th century charlatan Jos. Smith; and or Xena the space emperor dropping off theta spirits on earth according to LR Hubbard… is hardly the same as mocking a genius.

    If ones beliefs are so absurd so inane so without justificable support besides blind faith in so-and-so’s story, it is due/worthy of nothing more than mockery. That their feeling are hurt might prompt them to re-investigate/evaluate their idiocy. Probably not, but who cares?

    Heck, Utah being threatened with not being able to join the Union miraculously and coincidently resulted in God rescinding the Mormon doctrine of poligamy that he gave to Jos Smith. Maybe a little mockery will help them rescind someother stupidity they feed their flock… and that embarrasses them to have disclosed.

  3. Sarya Says:

    I looked the video up on YouTube (it’s not working here), and here is my take on it:

    1) Technically, Satan and Jesus didn’t propose two plans. God proposed his plan (agency), and Satan proposed his alternative. Jesus sided with God (rather than actually presenting the agency plan). A minor technicality, but still an error 😉
    2) Fence-sitters in the premortal existence being cursed with black skin is no longer taught in the church (although it was at one point). It’s not considered official doctrine at this point.
    3) The Adam-God doctrine as taught by Brigham Young is also no longer considered doctrinal.
    4) The God-actually-having-sex-with-Mary doctrine is not widely taught in the church (although it may have been considered doctrine at one point), and today is considered a theory espoused by a handful of nutjobs. The average Mormon has never even heard of this idea (as with most of the weirder doctrines).
    5) The above is also true of the Jesus-polygamist doctrine.
    6) Technically, the Lamanite-Nephite division was no longer defined by skin color by the time the Lamanites destroyed the people; at least that is what is taught in Mormonism today, and there is sufficient evidence in the Book of Mormon to argue that point of view. (The division was defined by skin color before the coming of Christ).
    7) It is not taught in the Mormon church today that Joseph Smith will sit in judgment at the last day.
    8) Technically, Joseph Smith didn’t actually write that he did more than Jesus (at least to the best of my knowledge). That statement comes from John Taylor, who wrote after Smith’s death that Joseph had done more for the human race than any man EXCEPT Jesus. Joseph Smith DID say that he had been able to do more than Jesus in that he was able to keep his body of followers together, whereas Jesus’s had left him.
    9) Joseph Smith “shed his blood for us so that we too may become Gods” is not doctrine; that is said of Jesus, not Joseph. Joseph IS regarded as a martyr, though.

    That’s my take on it. A lot of the things discussed in this video have been long covered up or simply not discussed in the Mormon church for years (though most/all of them were doctrine at one point).

    As far as leaving the church, this video was one of many things that I discovered online that eventually led me to conclude that the Mormon faith is not what it purports to be.

    Cheers!


    • Thanks a lot. That is a great analysis of the video and answers a lot of questions I had. I did actually read the Book of Mormon when I was in high school, just out of curiosity. But, much like the Bible, it’s difficult to ascertain the actual teachings of the church out of it.

    • Keith Griffiths Says:

      Hey Sarya, that was a very good post. I would like to ask you more about it though. Can you email me at kagflake@yahoo.com.
      Thanks,
      Keith


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